Is plastic surgery an option to get relief from back mice?

(First, please check our video posted in October 2023 on "Cluneal nerve entrapment" and the "back mice phenomenon")

Back mice is a colloquial term that has been popularized to named the painful palpable fibro-fatty nodules of the sacroiliac area (The term was coined by Peter Curtis in 1993, In the search of back mouse).

An overlooked medical condition and the wrong dogma

Since back mice is a condition that is still overlooked by mainstream medical practitioners. The first diagnostic orientattion for these lumps is ‘lipoma’ and the dogma is that “Lipomas do not hurt”. But back mice are not lipomas. As the back mice go misdiagnosed, the worried patients look for the answers on the internet as the pain is still there.

The role of the social media

These days internet has become a shelter for patients to search for information and share their symptoms and experiences to help each other. Gladly, the patients of back mice can find the information on:

Apart from the literature, youtube also has some videos providing information on the topic of back mice. The most watched video (with more than 254 thousands views) is “Lumps in Low Back, Top of Hip” where Chiropractor Hilma Volk has provided a comprehensive information in a very simple manner for general audience. Tnere are some some facebook pages where people are discusing their journey through the pain of back mice.

Are the plastic surgeons resolving low back pain?

After my research of reading through these social media forums for back mice, I found that lot of patients are posting stories of their journey through the pain and in some cases ultimately overcoming the pain through surgery performed by plastic surgeons. 

plastic surgery back mice

So, after all the social media stories and the medical research available the question still remains open, “Is surgery the ultimate solution to this condition?” Well, until the mainstream medicine fully understands the cause of these painful fatty lumps and finds a less invasive way to cure these, I think we would have to resort to the plastic surgeons for the severe cases.

Published by Marta Cañis Parera in Novembre 2021

The scientific eclipse to back mice?

“The incredible story of ‘Copeman’s forgotten chapter’ is revealed in the following videos, detailing how Dr. Copeman and his colleagues investigated fatty hernias (back mice) and their potential relationship with back pain in the mid-20th century. Despite early discovery and a surge of interest, all this knowledge was lost and overlooked, in what is now considered one of the most spectacular scientific eclipses in history. This oversight may have resulted in unnecessary suffering for countless people.

Copeman’s nodules (back mice)… the story of a scientific eclipse?

->LINK to Youtube: Chapter 4 (Part 1): The lost chapter of Dr. Copeman about fatty hernias (5 minutes long) english subtitles

->LINK to Youtube: Chapter 4 (Part 2): What did they mean by Non-articular rheumatism. (5 minutes long) english subtitles

-LINK to Youtube: Chapter 4 (part 3)…. coming soon

Other links to Youtube Videos

-Link: Please check our most recently posted video on Cluneal nerve entrapment and the “back mice phenomenon”.

-Link to a Youtube video based on a presentation I did in December 2022 in Poland. Summarized well what we know so far about the ‘back mice’ phenomenon (VIDEO lasts 17 minutes and it is in ENGLISH)

->LINK to a YouTube video where we show the ULTRASOUND IMAGES before and AFTER dry needling of a PAINFUL RIGHT SIDE BACK MOUSE (VIDEO with ENGLISH SUBTITLES)

Back mice monologue of 5 minutes (in Catalan language)

(First, please check our video posted in October 2023 on "Cluneal nerve entrapment" and the "back mice phenomenon")

*We have published a review about back mice: you may access a free on line pdf in the following link → Historical Review of Studies on Sacroiliac Fatty Nodules (Recently Termed “Back Mice”) as a Potential Cause of Low Back Pain. Cañis Parera et al. Pain ther (2021).

This is a monologue of 5 minutes in Catalan language. It was part of a contest called “Do you want to know what I investigate?” in November 2018 in Reus. It was organized by the Universtitat Rovira i Virgili and its aim was to promote research’s vocations among youngsters.

Title: back mice or “ratolins a l’esquena” 

This is the translation of the monologue:

Please, raise your hands those of you who know someone that has ever had “back pain”.

Many of you, as you can see… since it is considered that 2/3 of the world population suffer or will suffer “back pain” at some point… So it is a very important health problem.

There are some KNOWN causes for “back pain” such as a herniated disk or the fracture of a vertebra.

But you must know that for most of the cases, that is to say 9/10 of “back pains”, WE STILL HAVEN’T GOT A CLUE what the cause is.

We work with a HYPOTHESIS:

Maybe we know so little about this pain… because we have always researched the same parts of the human body: muscles, tendons, ligaments and bones. But we are also made of ANOTHER component…

ALL OF YOU, close your eyes and visualize a slice of “serrano ham”… There is a reddish tissue, this is the muscle tissue… but there is also a white tissue. This is the FATTY tissue, and this is what I’m studying.

The title of my thesis is “Characterization of Fibro-fatty Tissue in the Low Back”.

You may wonder: Why are you studying it, when nobody else does?

Well, anything can start with a little anecdote, and I’ll tell you mine…

One day, when my husband woke up…

Y: I’ve got back pain.

M: Oh, take ibuprofen.

Y: Won’t you see me? Or palpate me?

M: Ooops… let me see you. Is it painful here? Well, here, where it hurts you, there’s a little lump. But it WON’T be serious.

Y: Oh, it WON’T be SERIOUS. I’ve got a painful lump on my back that didn’t let me sleep and it’s NOT SERIOUS!!!!

All of a sudden, I realized… I had palpated these “little painful lumps” before… and I had the feeling that they weren’t serious… BUT I DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE… THEY DIDN’T HAVE A NAME… they didn’t talk me about them at the Faculty of Medicine… and I couldn’t find them in my books…

BUT I was sure that other doctors must have palpated them, as I did.

So I DECIDED to do an Internet research!

And I began with Google… I didn’t have a medical word and I typed (in Spanish) “painful lumps in the back”. I found lots of forums where people said: I’ve got a painful lump in my back and my doctor doesn’t know what it is”.

Then I searched in English, pulled the string and… SURPRISINGLY I found lots of information from doctors who, throughout history and in many different parts of the world, had studied these nodules.

Now I’m studying ALL THE scientific ARTICLES and books that have been published, and I have even used Google translator to understand articles In Romanian, Italian or Serbian… I have also created a web page where I upload all the information I find and share it with other researchers…

So, what is the NAME for these nodules? Well, throughout the history of medicine they have been given MANY names… it seems that every person that discovered them gave them a name.

But the funniest name of all –the one that the latest articles use- and my favorite is the name that an American doctor gave them… back in the 90s… “back mice”.

And what do we know about these mysterious nodules?

Back mice are nodules of fat, which can be palpated in the DEEP low back, just here, where people put their hands when they have some backache. By the way, it is better to palpate them with some cream on one’s hand and the patient standing.

They have a CAPSULE, so when you palpate them, the skin feels slippery and they seem to be moving and escaping. That’s why they’re called “mice”.

They hurt when they swell. Imagine a ball under your skin that grew bigger and harder.

They can be small, the size of a pea, or big, and the size of a plum.

We have found out many things about “back mice”, but we STILL HAVE many, many questions that need to be answered:

-Why do some people have them and others don’t?

-Why are some of them painful and others are painless?

-Why CAN’T we find this knowledge in our books?

For different reasons, but maybe the fact that we doctors made the mistake to stop palpating patients a long time ago was one of them. Somehow, we used X- rays (where back mice can’t be seen) instead of our HANDS.

Now YOU do! You know more than many doctors do. You know that some little lumps that can be palpated here, in the low back zone, are called BACK MICE, and they sometimes swell and are painful… There’s STILL a lot of work to be done and many questions to be answered. If you are eager to investigate, come on! We’ll keep on studying these nodules that are so intriguing!

Marta Cañis Parera

Did Copeman really talk about “fibromyalgia” (naming it “Water retention syndrome”) in Barcelona Congress in 1951?

(First, please check our video posted in October 2023 on "Cluneal nerve entrapment" and the "back mice phenomenon")

*We have published a review about back mice: you may access a free on line pdf in the following link → Historical Review of Studies on Sacroiliac Fatty Nodules (Recently Termed “Back Mice”) as a Potential Cause of Low Back Pain. Cañis Parera et al. Pain ther (2021).

In 1951, Barcelona held the Second European Congress of Rheumatology in the faculty of Medicine in Barcelona.

The president was a famous Catalan doctor, professor Agustín Pedro Pons. Pere Barceló Torrent, the founder of the “Secció de reumatologia de l’Acadèmia de Ciències Mèdiques”, was also involved.

Many known rheumatologists went, such as: W. S. C. Copeman, Philip S. Hench (Nobel Prize in Medicine, 1950, from Mayo Clinic in Rochester).

Copeman presided over the Congress and he was also the opening speaker of the session about non-articular rheumatism.

Copeman’s presentation: “Water Retention Syndrome”

In the book II Congreso Europeo de Reumatología. 24-25 septiembre, 1951. Barcelona. Ponencias oficiales, the presentation that Copeman gave at the congress in 1951 is written.

It was titled “Non-articular rheumatism” and the “Water retention syndrome”, signed by Copeman and R. M. Manson.

They come from the Department of Rheumatism, from West London Hospital.

Copeman and Manson start saying that there still exist many unexplained pains that are a real medical problem and are described by the general term of “non-articular rheumatism”.

 The terms “non-articular pain” vs. “fibrositis”. Copeman’s prefers the term “non-articular rheumatism”

Sometimes the term “non-articular rheumatism” has to be ceased if a pathological process appears afterwards. But in some other cases, no other alternative appears. Then the term can be used to cover more than one type of painful syndrome.

In recent years, some authors have used the term “fibrositis” but Copeman thinks that the term leads to controversy since the term suggests a fibrotic condition.

Copeman and Manson PROPOSE a new hypothesis

They mention that NONE of current hypothesis as to the cause of “fibrositic” pain is adequate. They propose a NEW CLINICAL SYNDROME to explain the “fibrositic pain”.

They also refer to the term “panniculitis” as being erroneously used.

Current hypothesis: FIBROSITIC

Based on the work of Stockman, who studied the “rheumatic nodules” and found an inflammatory hyperplasia of the white fibrous tissue (with fibroblast but NO LEUCOCYTIC reaction). Stockman thought it could be the result of an infection but couldn’t prove it. Copeman doubts that the lesion is related to undetected focus of infection but rather to past history of rheumatic fever or strain or trauma.

The pain of the fibrous nodule can be referred quite diffusely to anywhere (with the deep neural segment). And it is sometimes erroneously attributed to the joint itself.

The fibrositic nodules are usually located at the tendinous portions or the fibrous aponeurosis of the affected muscles.

Firm pressure elicits an exquisite tenderness and may reproduce the referred pain.

 The observations related to febrile processes

Copeman (1943) observed that during the course of several febrile illnesses (influenza, measles, rubella and mumps) “trigger points” of pain could be localized. They become painless as the patient becomes apyrexial, but some remain latent and tender on pressure. They can be reactivated later by occurrence of a fever process, trauma, and temperature changes… and be the basis for “fibrositic” trouble in later life.

Kellgren Ball (1950) also points out the tendon nodules of the rheumatoid arthritis that show NOT SPECIFIC PATHOLOGICAL CHANGES.

Current hypothesis: localized muscle fiber spasm

Based on the recent electromyographic studies, it seems established that certain palpable tender “fibrositic” nodules may constitute localized muscle fiber spasm. The condition presumably results from IRRITATION of the posterior nerve roots by minor lesions in or around the spinal cord (such as developmental defects, arthritis of intervertebral joints, or a mild disc lesion). They may disappear as a result of heat, massage, or local injection of procaine.

Other hypotheses

Psychogenic rheumatism: This is the aching pain in psycho-neurotic individuals. Nodules do no refer it. It usually occurs in the tendinous insertions of certain muscle groups as the result of constant tension or spasm, secondary to their state of mental tension.

Toxaemia: Chronic muscular pain may occur as the result of infected focus such as sinusitis. During acute infection or sub-acute or chronic phase.

Others: Microtrauma (minor but repetitive trauma), severe cold and hot, unaccustomed exercise.

Fibro-fatty tissue in relation to non-articular rheumatism

In addition to the fibrous and muscular tissues, there is a third tissue, fat, also of mesodermal origin. Copeman and Mason think that fat tissue has to be considered as a cause of pain in the category of non-articular rheumatism.

Fatty tissue is widely distributed in the body. In addition to being protective, it appears to be functional, and one of its chief physiological functions is concerned with the storage of body water.

The derangement of its normal function of water-storage would lead to a PAINFUL FIBRO-FATTY TISSUE DISTENTION SYNDROME.

The term “panniculitis” has partly been used to explain this syndrome. Nevertheless, Copeman and Manson state that since no evidence of an inflammatory pathology exists (except in TRUE panniculitis), it is better to use the term “water retention” or briefly “tension syndrome”.

“Water Retention Syndrome” or “Tension Syndrome”

This is a painful condition caused by periodical swelling of the deep fatty tissue in certain well-defined sites of the body where the affected FAT LOBULES are confined by an unyielding or thickened fibrous covering.

Local tension results in pain. It is generally diagnosed as “fibrositis” in view of the lack of objective signs or sometimes as “psychogenic” rheumatism.

Onset of the “Water Retention Syndrome”

-It occurs principally in women, it can be associated to a recent increase in weight (although the victim doesn’t need to be obese).

-Its onset can be within the menopause zone or subsequent to an artificial menopause.

-Long periods of freedom from pain are not unusual.

-Sometimes it occurs only during the few days preceding the monthly menstrual period. If the patient were in menopause, at such time as when menstruation would have otherwise occurred.

-The onset of attacks is often unexpectedly acute; it usually passes off less suddenly than it occurs.

Symptoms of Copeman’s “Water Retention Syndrome”

-The general health of the patient is preserved except for the “mental depression” secondary to a prolonged attack.

-There may be disturbed sleep either by the stiffness or by pain lying on the tender area.

-A feeling of lassitude or irritability precedes some attacks.

-The patient often describes a sensation of generalized swelling of the body and limbs, in addition to that experienced as pain in certain regions (the size of the fingers can be shown to be increased, evidenced by the patient’s inability to wear their usual rings).

-Sometimes there is an increase in body weight.

Sites of pain:

-Although the patient described severe pains as diffuse, examination would reveal it to be situated in certain well-defined areas in which the deep fatty tissue is confined by an indistinguishable fibrous fascia. These sites have been shown in a diagram in previous studies.

-The dorsal and the knee fat-pads are usually the most commonly implicated.

-If the sacrum fat-pad is involved, then it may be visible from inspection.

-The skin shows a “peau d’orange” appearance.

-On palpation there are painful nodules”.

-There can be “trigger points” situated in the fat-pads.

Copeman and Manson’s clinical investigations with patients with “fibrositic pain”

 

They did 3 types of experiments to try to force or to reduce the body water retention.

First experiments: Copeman and Manson tried to do experiments by weight reduction and diuretics, without any conclusive result to pain relief.

Second experiments: Later, they tried to induce an artificially “water retention syndrome” with and hormone deoxycortone to induce an attack, which also failed. They explained 5 cases. And they showed the fluid balance, body weight and pain subjective assessment in the clinical charts.

Third experiments: By chance, they observed a patient who was given cortisone for osteoarthritis; they observed the knee fat pads increased of size. Then they experimented on two cases. They administrated single large intramuscular cortisone dose that exacerbated the pains of the tension syndrome in both patients. Then they experimented by causing INTRACELULAR DEHYDRATATION in two patients by injection of intravenous hypertonic saline, which reduced the pain temporarily. They finally hypothesized cortisone may increase an increased volume in intracellular fluid, and then increase the water retention syndrome.

One of the cases was Case 1. Woman, 24 years old. Severe lumbar backache for six years. Pain all over the lumbar region fluctuating in severity but always present. Pain did not radiate to legs. No lumbar spine lesion was found. Four years before, an iliac fatty hernia was removed, which relieved her pain. However, pain recurred more generally and she was admitted to hospital. On examination MULTIPLE EXQUISITELY TENDER NODULES could be felt over both iliac crest. X-ray revealed no changes. The experiments they did on her didn’t have any effect on her pain.

Published in April 2018 By Marta Cañis Parera  ORCID iD icon

References:

  • Book II Congreso Europeo de Reumatología. 24-25 septiembre 1951. Barcelona. Ponencias oficiales. Editorial Publicaciones Médicas José Janés Editor. Cuarta ponencia: Reumatismo no articular y síndrome de retención de agua. W. S. C. Copeman. Páginas 209-228
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